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mels34

mels34

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Jan 17, 2023
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Soon as you start to win.. . They will close your account and steal your money.. Even though they make you verify your account before depositing they will ask for everything but your first born.. and still not reopen your account..

Stay away from these SCAMMERS!
 

rabiddog

rabiddog

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Dec 5, 2021
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They pay that's the most important thing. I won about $15,000 off them a couple years ago. The owner told me that he didn't want my action anymore. He was polite about it and paid me instantly to Bitcoin.
 

JDS

JDS

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They pay that's the most important thing. I won about $15,000 off them a couple years ago. The owner told me that he didn't want my action anymore. He was polite about it and paid me instantly to Bitcoin.
Was that a high point in your gambling career ? Also has this happen ever before with other books …
 

JDS

JDS

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Could the Panthers trade for him with their number 1 overall pick or is that not fair value for the both teams ? Maybe throw in a couple players or picks to offset whatever value these teams may think they have.
 

thesharpestsharpie

thesharpestsharpie

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Mar 14, 2023
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Some of us are old enough to remember Griffin, the owner of 1Vice and his "buy an NBA team" bonus scheme. The deal was you could pay 1K or something to "buy" an NBA team for the year and then you'd get double winnings on all bets on them. People loved it, the book went bust and they stopped paying. They owed me 10K + and I didn't get a cent. Griffin ended up in jail. RDG bought their company and paid some a discounted settlement and stiffed others. America's Bookie, 1Vice, Bet33 and Betagame are all the same.

Betagame, if I remember correctly, was founded by Griffin's friend, right around the time that 1Vice was no paying, limiting and settling with people. He was trying hard, but didn't seem to have the brain to really do what he wanted to.

Once a book no pays me, I won't play there or any of their family books ever again. There are FAR BETTER options who will actually pay you out.

If this is the class of book you want to use, I highly suggest GTBets.ag. They are 100% payers over a decade. They are responsive and ALWAYS do the right thing with customers. I wish they had a better BTC processor, as they always take 50-100$ out and blame exchange rates, but they eventually make it right. The BTC withdrawals were processed 24 hours after the request, so about 48 hours to payment, and thats the only real gripe.

Avoid any book with beta in the name.
 
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thesharpestsharpie

thesharpestsharpie

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Owen or Robbie? His partner was the scammer who ran their support and then started his own book. I think they knew they were going to not pay and created betagame to cyphon off players from their dumpster fire of a book at 1vice. Here is a thread about the entire scam from 2016:

I will always have a special place in my hateful part of my heart for 1Vice and Stiffin Griffin. I made about 50K in a 2 month off a 500$ deposit. I was young and broke and spent 2 months thinking I was really going to get paid. Come my first withdrawal, 3K per week with big 200$ fee and it was in the stone ages so we had to wait for checks. Once the check arrived, 7-10 days later, I could request more. I realized I would be able to get about 2 checks per month, so it was going to take me 9 months to cash out my winnings. Some of you are disciplined enough to sit on that and slowly cash out. I might be now. But at the time, I was not. I got about 5 K out total, lost a lot back and had 10K balance when Stiffin Griffin went busto and fucked us all. Needed the money badly. Wasted my life for 2 months on a non payer.

You've been warned.
 
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