Remove the worst point guard

[DiggityDaggityDo]

 

[samsncharge99]

it's funny, b/c initially you wanna remove Curry based on assists. But then you take the whole account of Curry as a player and would you remove the greatest shooter of all time from your list?

remove Oscar Robertson for me

 

[JDS]

John Stockton

 

[stevek173]

Thomas

 

[Tanko]

Isiah Thomas.
Close call though with Nash.

 

[Tanko]

it's funny, b/c initially you wanna remove Curry based on assists. But then you take the whole account of Curry as a player and would you remove the greatest shooter of all time from your list?

remove Oscar Robertson for me

Shocked by this one.

 

[Wagerallsports]

Isiah Thomas.
Close call though with Nash.

Agreed one of those two

Even though I saw a recent Vid of Nash tutoring one of the top prospects in the draft and he doesn't miss from the floor at all or at least in that vid

 

[Wagerallsports]

John Stockton

In my opinion he holds the greatest feat of sports records in history

Not just one All-Time Record on the offensive side of the ball, but a 2nd All-Time Record also on the Defensive side of the ball

It's never been seen before & probably never will again

Pure dominance on BOTH sides of the ball



NBA All-Time Assists

1.	John Stockton*	15806
2.	Chris Paul	12552
3.	Jason Kidd*	12091
4.	LeBron James	12016
5.	Russell Westbrook	10351
6.	Steve Nash*	10335
7.	Mark Jackson	10334
8.	Magic Johnson*	10141
9.	Oscar Robertson*	9887
10.	Isiah Thomas*	9061

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NBA All-Time Steals Leaders

1.	John Stockton*	3265
2.	Chris Paul	2728
3.	Jason Kidd*	2684
4.	Michael Jordan*	2514
5.	Gary Payton*	2445
6.	LeBron James	2417
7.	Maurice Cheeks*	2310
8.	Scottie Pippen*	2307
9.	Julius Erving*	2272
10.	Clyde Drexler*	2207

 

[JDS]

In my opinion he holds the greatest feat of sports records in history

Not just one All-Time Record on the offensive side of the ball, but a 2nd All-Time Record also on the Defensive side of the ball

It's never been seen before & probably never will again

Pure dominance on BOTH sides of the ball



NBA All-Time Assists

1.	John Stockton*	15806
2.	Chris Paul	12552
3.	Jason Kidd*	12091
4.	LeBron James	12016
5.	Russell Westbrook	10351
6.	Steve Nash*	10335
7.	Mark Jackson	10334
8.	Magic Johnson*	10141
9.	Oscar Robertson*	9887
10.	Isiah Thomas*	9061

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NBA All-Time Steals Leaders

1.	John Stockton*	3265
2.	Chris Paul	2728
3.	Jason Kidd*	2684
4.	Michael Jordan*	2514
5.	Gary Payton*	2445
6.	LeBron James	2417
7.	Maurice Cheeks*	2310
8.	Scottie Pippen*	2307
9.	Julius Erving*	2272
10.	Clyde Drexler*	2207

Fair argument I’m no NBA expert actually.

 

[theriver55]

Fair argument I’m no NBA expert actually.

hahahah

 

[JDS]

hahahah

Forgot he was still all time assist leader lol, I’ll go with Isaiah Thomas instead officially changed my vote.

 

[KVB]

Have to remove Oscar because I didn't see him play.

Sure, you can watch highlights, but that's like back testing stats to handicap games. It's worthless.

Without the context the history of replays and stats are worthless.

I could write pages on why backtesting to get an edge is flawed. Seems nobody else in the world understands that.

It might work in other domains, but when it comes to sportsbetting, it is flawed.

 

[KVB]

Have to remove Oscar because I didn't see him play.

Sure, you can watch highlights, but that's like back testing stats to handicap games. It's worthless.

Without the context the history of replays and stats are worthless.

I could write pages on why backtesting to get an edge is flawed. Seems nobody else in the world understands that.

It might work in other domains, but when it comes to sportsbetting, it is flawed.

In the applied mathematics of sportsbetting, nearly everyone, even succesful professionals, apply the math wrong.

 

[edawg]

Curry, Magic, Zeke, and Oscar

 

[maltedhopsfrenzy]

If I can’t move Magic to ‘small forward’, then it’s Steven Nash…..

 

[djefferis]

Stockton gives you a pure pass first PG with defense that creates fast break opportunities - paired with a star it’s an unbeatable combo. Plus no ego to deal with.

Isiah Thomas gives you all the ego of a star with less production - but he also does the dirty work and plays hard.

Nash gives you scoring prowess - but lacks everywhere else compared to that group.

Personally - it’s Isiah for me - but drop Nash too replace one with Gary Payton. Now you have a proper top 5 all time.

 

[baz]

John Stockton

Prob big John actually....I mean, I am sure he would agree. Those are some all timers as well. I can also tell you, dude, some of the "assists" the home scorekeeper would give him on ocaision were laughable.

 

[JDS]

Prob big John actually....I mean, I am sure he would agree. Those are some all timers as well. I can also tell you, dude, some of the "assists" the home scorekeeper would give him on ocaision were laughable.

I had a lapse and forgot just how legendary his career has been, so I adjusted my vote.
Let me ask you a question bazzy. If John Stockton was to play today against these athletes who are more athletic but overall more lazy on defense it’s fair to say, how many points would he average a game in 2026 ? In fact, I ask everybody in this thread that same question.

 

[theriver55]

^^IMO the great players of yesteryear when you were a kid would dominate the players of today.

 

[JDS]

^^IMO the great players of yesteryear when you were a kid would dominate the players of today.

That didn’t answer my question give me a fuckin’ number lol (Let’s play that hypothetical game even though it doesn’t mean a Goddamn thing).