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sportsbettor5

sportsbettor5

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Seeking the perspective of other experienced players.

I recently started playing with a household name. Don't want to name them yet as I'm not interesting in trashing them in case I'm missing something.

I deposited and took no bonuses. Cleared the 1x RO and went to withdraw. The interface said I was ineligible to withdraw because I had to clear a rollover.

Looking more closely, it seems that the book gave me a tiny, unsolicited freeplay bonus for my action. This freeplay bonus was <0.15% of the balance I was set to withdraw. Talking to CS, I learned I had only two options if I wanted my funds:

(1) risk the small bonus amount to clear the rollover on that amount, then initiate a withdrawal
(2) forfeit the bonus amount, then initiate a withdrawal

In case that's unclear, I'll put some hypothetical numbers to it in the correct proportion. Suppose my balance was $30k, and those funds had completed 1x rollover. The sportsbook at some point (unclear when) decided to give me a $36.50 freeplay bonus merely for wagering with them. So my balance total was $30,036.50. Customer service is saying I can't withdraw my $30k because I haven't rolled over the $36.50.

I imagine anyone who has read this far will ask, "why not just risk the $36.50 and be done with it"? The major reason is that none of the sports I play have any matches coming up soon and I don't like my account having action on any sports other than the few that I play---I like my account history to be 100% clear about which sports I play and which I do not. I can explain why that is later if anyone doesn't get it. Also, as a matter of principle, if a book gives a player an unsolicited freeplay bonus for wagering with them, it seems to me the player should be allowed to play with those funds at any time without this affecting their deposited funds. These two types of funds should be segregated, it seems to me.

BOL also has given me this type of small unsolicited freeplay bonus in recent times. The difference is that BOL doesn't block withdrawal of my other, rolled over, funds after it credits these small bonuses to me. A cynic might say the book in question is just attempting to keep me playing in the hope that I lose my funds. I don't want to be too cynical, so I seek your input.
 

Miz

Miz

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I think this happened to me at betus before. I figured it was an attempt to delay having to payout or possibly a coincidence. I think i just met it and then withdrew the next day or something. It was a long time ago
 

sportsbettor5

sportsbettor5

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Say you bet the FP on hockey, which is a sport you never bet. Why does the account history matter? Especially when it’s a small FP bet?

BAUS
I want anyone reviewing/profiling my account at the sportsbook to quickly determine, "sportsbettor5 plays only sports A and B" and not "sportsbettor5 plays mostly sports A and B, but there was that one time he risked a bit on C and another time he risked it on D...." The reason is:

Over the years, we've seen cases in which players say they logged in to find their balance was zeroed out. When they look at their wager history, they say they find that someone placed a bunch of bets on their account and lost all the money. Sometimes, the conclusion of these stories has been that a rogue sportsbook employee stole the money and filled in a bunch of fake losing bets to make it look like the player himself lost the money.

This approach would be harder to use on me, since any non-thief at the sportsbook reviewing my history would see clearly that the fake bets did not match the sports I play.
 

FrankDexter

FrankDexter

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Maybe I’m missing something but why not do option 2 and just forfeit the bonus? Or are they forcing you to forfeit winnings from other bets if you do that? I know legal sites in the states make you do that
I agree with this.

Forfeit the bonus and be done if you want the withdrawal now.

If you plan on sticking around long term, just wait it out and play the bonus on your preferred sport.
 

sportsbettor5

sportsbettor5

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Maybe I’m missing something but why not do option 2 and just forfeit the bonus? Or are they forcing you to forfeit winnings from other bets if you do that? I know legal sites in the states make you do that
I agree with this.

Forfeit the bonus and be done if you want the withdrawal now.
That's what I did in the end. I just find the whole thing odd as no other book has done anything like this to me.
 

btcfan

btcfan

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Sounds like a BetUS tactic. They used to give me (sure they still do on most accounts) a $25 free play on some random game, just to force some rollover in play. Quick to roll, but if you use a couple of them, requires a deposit again to withdrawal. Really shady. I had that happen to me 2 or 3 years ago one time. Made the deposit, played through a bit and withdrew a bunch. Never took any FP from them again, and now not offered but really really shady. Their casino is worse...don't take the free casino chips. Requires a double rollover and will tie to your SB balance so you could lose your sports balance trying to roll it. Again, super shady.
 
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