Iran fires drones and ballistic missiles at Israel

[stormtrooper8]

Got to go to a wedding in Israel in June

Having second thoughts

 

[stormtrooper8]

US needs to stop bailing out Israel in general though. So many wasted resources

Literally Israel could create safe zones for Palestinians and then go wipe out Hamas with some US aid

But they’ve blundered their chance to do that

 

[jjgold]

Non story

 

[quantumleap]

US needs to stop bailing out Israel in general though. So many wasted resources

Literally Israel could create safe zones for Palestinians and then go wipe out Hamas with some US aid

But they’ve blundered their chance to do that

Yeah, they're not looking favorable in the eyes of the world. I don't know what is true and what is fiction but it has been reported that Israel has been bombing hospitals in Gaza because they claim Hamas is hiding there.

I would think Israel could easily get some Mossad agents and surgically hunt down Hamas and take them out, kind of like they did with the Olympic killers.

The problem with that is that it would cause a power vacuum in Gaza. Would someone then control who was just as bad as Hamas? Maybe the US could put in some Moderate player as leader and everything would be good for now.

 

[DiggityDaggityDo]

I lived in Israel for 13 months, it was the worst, what a complete shit hole, disgusting ugly girls, terrible food, really the only thing I liked were the soccer games, they are fun. They do have very very good drugs, top notch better than anywhere for designer drugs, no comedown and really clean 2c-b, K and others, that was years ago but nonetheless a complete shit country and I was a Jew but converted and gave my soul to Christ.

Really? I thought the food would be good.

 

[carolinakid]

this is not good with america having such a very weak white house now too

 

[stormtrooper8]

Yeah, they're not looking favorable in the eyes of the world. I don't know what is true and what is fiction but it has been reported that Israel has been bombing hospitals in Gaza because they claim Hamas is hiding there.

I would think Israel could easily get some Mossad agents and surgically hunt down Hamas and take them out, kind of like they did with the Olympic killers.

The problem with that is that it would cause a power vacuum in Gaza. Would someone then control who was just as bad as Hamas? Maybe the US could put in some Moderate player as leader and everything would be good for now.

Yeah I mean to some level it sounds easier than it is. There are levels of complexity to it because of fucked up leadership structure in Gaza

But we can't act like Israel isn't just treating the Palestinian people that have NOTHING to do with this like pieces of shit.

To me it's like this:

• Isreal has every right to want to destroy Hamas, which is a piece of shit organization. We should all want Hamas destroyed
• You can be critical of Israel with how they've handled the conflict and treated the Palestinian civilians
• There are innocent Palestinian people who just want food and shelter, and it's OK to support their political and economic freedom
• Jihad ideology is awful and everyone should want it destroyed from the Earth

Can we all just agree on that?

So much generalization out there today

 

[Pimike]

Screw Hamas and Iran and all people on the side of these evil people.

 

[quantumleap]

Yeah I mean to some level it sounds easier than it is. There are levels of complexity to it because of fucked up leadership structure in Gaza

But we can't act like Israel isn't just treating the Palestinian people that have NOTHING to do with this like pieces of shit.

To me it's like this:

• Isreal has every right to want to destroy Hamas, which is a piece of shit organization. We should all want Hamas destroyed
• You can be critical of Israel with how they've handled the conflict and treated the Palestinian civilians
• There are innocent Palestinian people who just want food and shelter, and it's OK to support their political and economic freedom
• Jihad ideology is awful and everyone should want it destroyed from the Earth

Can we all just agree on that?

So much generalization out there today

You and I are on the same page. I have thought the same on each and every point you make.

 

[stormtrooper8]

Screw Hamas and Iran and all people on the side of these evil people.

Agreed

 

[BigJay]

This will get out of hand quickly.

 

[BigJay]

Probably not the right place to post but if you want to watch a great series on Netflix check out this one.

It’s about Israeli special forces/spies that chase after terrorists.

A lot is based on true experiences

 

[lekidecincinnati]

would be nice avoid an all out war and calm the situation down, thank goodness war mongers like john bolton aren't in charge

 

[johhnytyler23]

this is not good with america having such a very weak white house now too

Just be thankful the orange moron is in a Court House and not the White House. So glad that dumbassery is over.

 

[martinhop]

Yeah I mean to some level it sounds easier than it is. There are levels of complexity to it because of fucked up leadership structure in Gaza

But we can't act like Israel isn't just treating the Palestinian people that have NOTHING to do with this like pieces of shit.

To me it's like this:

• Isreal has every right to want to destroy Hamas, which is a piece of shit organization. We should all want Hamas destroyed
• You can be critical of Israel with how they've handled the conflict and treated the Palestinian civilians
• There are innocent Palestinian people who just want food and shelter, and it's OK to support their political and economic freedom
• Jihad ideology is awful and everyone should want it destroyed from the Earth

Can we all just agree on that?

So much generalization out there today

The way Israel wants to portray this is... 'innocent civilians' dance on the streets on 9-11. They help dig and maintain tunnels. They are all accomplices.

If I knew whether to trust the above, I would know whether I support the very existence of Palestinian state. Back 400 years ago, they would be exterminated (I know, not cool, just ask native Americans) but let's face it: they lost all their wars, and they are at the mercy of the far more advanced Israeli society. I understand why they are not cool with that. But I don't know if I should feel sorry for them. Or native Indians. Or dinosaurs.

 

[martinhop]

I mean Hamas is fighting a 20th century war, when Israel is ready for a 22nd century war.

It's a farce. You want your land back - fight for it. Palestine can't fight back, can it?

 

[Wagerallsports]

The way Israel wants to portray this is... 'innocent civilians' dance on the streets on 9-11. They help dig and maintain tunnels. They are all accomplices.

If I knew whether to trust the above, I would know whether I support the very existence of Palestinian state. Back 400 years ago, they would be exterminated (I know, not cool, just ask native Americans) but let's face it: they lost all their wars, and they are at the mercy of the far more advanced Israeli society. I understand why they are not cool with that. But I don't know if I should feel sorry for them. Or native Indians. Or dinosaurs.

Yep they did celebrate during & after the attacks

And those kids there are not normal children they are simply smaller terrorists

I have no pity for them

There’s a reason none of the surrounding countries will accept the Palestinians into their lands, even now

Has Israel pushed their retaliation too far?

That’s a matter of opinion

Hamas has said multiple times to the world that will never stop

Therefore I’m not sure how anyone can blame Israel for trying to eliminate the aggressor for good

 

[martinhop]

Yeah I mean to some level it sounds easier than it is. There are levels of complexity to it because of fucked up leadership structure in Gaza

But we can't act like Israel isn't just treating the Palestinian people that have NOTHING to do with this like pieces of shit.

To me it's like this:

• Isreal has every right to want to destroy Hamas, which is a piece of shit organization. We should all want Hamas destroyed
• You can be critical of Israel with how they've handled the conflict and treated the Palestinian civilians
• There are innocent Palestinian people who just want food and shelter, and it's OK to support their political and economic freedom
• Jihad ideology is awful and everyone should want it destroyed from the Earth

Can we all just agree on that?

So much generalization out there today

Additionally, don't you think it's up to the 'Palestinian state' to monitor and police its citizens, and disassociate itself from Hamas, if they want to be Israeli's good neighbor?

Millions of people in Africa, Russia and North Korea are 'innocent'. You can't help them all. If they can't take charge of their lives/their government, it's sad - but ultimately it's ON THEM

 

[martinhop]

Yep they did celebrate during & after the attacks

And those kids there are not normal children they are simply smaller terrorists

I have no pity for them

There’s a reason none of the surrounding countries will accept the Palestinians even now

Has Israel pushed their retaliation too far?

That’s a matter of opinion

Hamas has said multiple times to the world that will never stop

Therefore I’m not sure how anyone can blame Israel for trying to eliminate the aggressor for good

You're typing what I think to myself but wouldn't post in 2024.

It's a shitty situation but it's the only reality for those kids. Their parents failed at life, they lost in a game of Civilization. They fell behind. It's not fair and not perfect, but they are now stuck in an impossible situation.

Should I feel bad about them? Probably. Do I? Sometimes. But I'm a lot more concerned with having to work two (almost) full time jobs and barely having enough money ever since COVID hit. And I'm also concerned the next president won't do jack for me and my family and I just hope the U.S. Dollar doesn't collapse during my lifetime.

 

[Tanko]

There’s a reason none of the surrounding countries will accept the Palestinians into their lands, even now

This part of your post is very telling on what the other arab countries think of the Palestinians.
They won't accept them AND they actually have been deporting several that have arrived over the years.

WHY?

Because the Palestinians who relocate to other countries cause trouble (i.e. organize coups - ask the King of Jordan about that; create terrorist cells within other countries borders - see Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, are the cause of most crime wherever they live - see the Netherlands, Denmark, etc..).

Sure not all Palestinians are bad, but why is it so prevalent that their people are the biggest cause of problems when they move to other countries?