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pipe

pipe

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It can be done but with all the options out here and to get the best line why do it if you can afford to get down on several books. People always think that sports betting is about picking winners and in the end that may be somewhat true but I say that If you can learn to master the art of line movement the wins will come in the end.
 

KVB

KVB

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KVB you kind of just wrote the same thing again.

There are many ways to calculate push rates and it's an art not a science. But Pinnacle's been doing it for decades and they are going to be right 99% of the time, so it's hard to believe there is much value to extract in the 1% of cases... if they even exist. And you haven't given any examples of how/when they might exist. As such you haven't really said much at all.

I agree, I doubt you'll find the value at Pinny either.

Know Your Markets.

I give examples real time, if it's in a teaching context. Not a lot of use in going back and talking about past value, wagers, etc out of the markets.

It's best to use what's out there currently, hence the idea of giving info daily, like in a vid.

But for those actually looking going forward, I most definitely gave an example of how when they exist. Post 34 was example, right down to the proximity of significant and key numbers in footbal while the market is off in general.

That is very specific. If you there, in that situiation, step down the line and see what's offered. it's very specific, if you can judge whether or not the market is off.

Like I said in Post#37, some will pick up what I'm putting down, and those who just see it as vague probably don't consider these things when betting. To them it's just to know that it's out there, and being used.
 

KVB

KVB

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...There are many ways to calculate push rates and it's an art not a science....

Agreed, I keep saying the same thing, there are many ways to work push rates, calculating push rates is the science of it, how you use that information is the art of it. Different ways to calculate my feel like an art, but it's not. The way you funnel it into the rest of the science, now that's art.

I'm well aware of what Pinny can do, their just another book from which we can update their specifc current push rate. But they aren't the only game in town.

That's where trading comes into play.
 

rolandcorts

rolandcorts

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There is no one way to calculate push rates, especially in markets with small sample sizes like the NFL.

"Know your markets" huh?
"Proximity of significant and key numbers when the market is off" Huh? Boy it would be really nice to know when the NFL market is off, being that it's the most efficient in American sports.

Why don't you give a specific example from last year's NFL season, because your posts couldn't be more vague?
 
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