Can anyone win longterm WITHOUT using numbers?

[easy_street]

Nobodies outsmarting a book with stats

but dont books use stats' to make their numbers?

 

[baz]

then i do that all the time. i compare what books show me to what i think, to what other books think all the time...

I thought he meant making my own numbers and comparing that to the books'

JJ isn't even entirely certain what he is talking about. KVB has a good understanding of how to explain it.

 

[easy_street]

JJ isn't even entirely certain what he is talking about. KVB has a good understanding of how to explain it.

I thought he meant this typical idea that there are "math" bettors and there are dumbasses who randomly throw darts....

I mean i comically add me to the latter but the reality is that after so many years of looking at odds, i do see discrepancies. Say what you want about Lakerboy but he is a master at this.

 

[JDS]

I thought he meant this typical idea that there are "math" bettors and there are dumbasses who randomly throw darts....

I mean i comically add me to the latter but the reality is that after so many years of looking at odds, i do see discrepancies. Say what you want about Lakerboy but he is a master at this.

Lakerboy is sharp af usually & he loves the dogs. I would say playoffs any sport is his strength as a handicapper.

 

[easy_street]

Lakerboy is sharp af usually & he loves the dogs. I would say playoffs any sport is his strength as a handicapper.

he's really good with betting soccer dogs bro. they're like +200

 

[JDS]

he's really good with betting soccer dogs bro. they're like +200

Yeah I never got into that market does he post those in the subforum ?

 

[easy_street]

Yeah I never got into that market does he post those in the subforum ?

na the best LB posts are when he casually posts in someone else thread. Those honestly most of the time either win straight up or tie. LB is streaky though, just like the best of us

But like other winning cappers, he analyzes the numbers bookies hang up. I dont know if that is "using numbers" I think JJ meant being a math guy.

 

[jjgold]

The most successful players are screen guys looking for off market numbers vs other books mainly using a few sharp books to compare with

That is just math

 

[slickfazzer]

The most successful players are screen guys looking for off market numbers vs other books mainly using a few sharp books to compare with

That is just math

I try to look at Bookmaker offshore and Circa in Vegas. Hopefully my number is better, or at least not terribly worse than.

 

[aikman.tr]

Just because a line is -180 doesn't mean it's the right side.

The book has no emotional attachment to any side, team or bet.

"Long term" is a fictional point in time that punters use. It's up to the individual to decide wtf is long term or short term

 

[baz]

Lakerboy is sharp af usually & he loves the dogs. I would say playoffs any sport is his strength as a handicapper.

Laker is a hamburger. He is the biggest dart chucker in forum history. He randomly bets dogs. He did introduce me to Playoff hockey dogs on the road and alt lines blindly, you can go like 10-20 and urn a profit. Other than that he has very little knowledge. If dudes family didn't own restaurants he'd be on the streets.

 

[JDS]

Laker is a hamburger. He is the biggest dart chucker in forum history. He randomly bets dogs. He did introduce me to Playoff hockey dogs on the road and alt lines blindly, you can go like 10-20 and urn a profit. Other than that he has very little knowledge. If dudes family didn't own restaurants he'd be on the streets.

Why do I have such a vast different opinion on him we usually think very alike lol all good none the less Baz.

 

[baz]

Why do I have such a vast different opinion on him we usually think very alike lol all good none the less Baz.

Prob cuz I fell into the trap of thinking he was sharp a couple times. He's all about hit and run too. When he loses one he won't post for a while.

 

[easy_street]

Laker is a hamburger. He is the biggest dart chucker in forum history. He randomly bets dogs. He did introduce me to Playoff hockey dogs on the road and alt lines blindly, you can go like 10-20 and urn a profit. Other than that he has very little knowledge. If dudes family didn't own restaurants he'd be on the streets.

bro honestly? we got into it regarding how he bets dogs and frankly, he changed the way i look at soccer and NBA dogs. yea he;ll lose a bunch but there's something to learn from how he sees a dog. the books are always trying to f*** with you Baz, and the more you bet their bullshit, the better for you. i learned that from LB

 

[JDS]

Prob cuz I fell into the trap of thinking he was sharp a couple times. He's all about hit and run too. When he loses one he won't post for a while.

That is actually pretty true, he’s a cocky SOB as well lol.

 

[Tanko]

There's some decent info with great posts in this thread.

 

[baz]

bro honestly? we got into it regarding how he bets dogs and frankly, he changed the way i look at soccer and NBA dogs. yea he;ll lose a bunch but there's something to learn from how he sees a dog. the books are always trying to f*** with you Baz, and the more you bet their bullshit, the better for you. i learned that from LB

I'm glad he was able to help you, doesn't mean he isn't blindly betting dogs. His throw a bunch of s*** against the wall until something sticks, yea, you might end up turning a profit. I didn't get into sports betting to guess. Quite frankly if you were unaware that "books are always trying to f*** with you" is more of an indictment on you than Lakerboy being a sharp. Dude has pissed away so much of his families restaurant money it's unreal ask JJ.

 

[JDS]

I'm glad he was able to help you, doesn't mean he isn't blindly betting dogs. His throw a bunch of s*** against the wall until something sticks, yea, you might end up turning a profit. I didn't get into sports betting to guess. Quite frankly if you were unaware that "books are always trying to f*** with you" is more of an indictment on you than Lakerboy being a sharp. Dude has pissed away so much of his families restaurant money it's unreal ask JJ.

How do you have so much intel on Lakerboy ? He’s not the type to really share much personal shit about himself …

 

[baz]

Jerky if there is any information you can count on me for it is, professional athletes REAL names from the birth certificate, and knowledge of posters personal lives

 

[jjgold]

Just do this for fun or you’ll have a miserable life take it from an expert