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stormtrooper8

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but always fun to watch the conservative western "bible" party, back these kind of limits on human rights, when it aligns with their own personal beliefs, party values, and intolerances. But in another instance, we'll gladly send tanks and drones into a city to "liberate them and spread democracy"

in this instance qatar more tolerant that many American Jesus loving liberty patriots on twitter
Bingo

Imagine if Qatar was a strong advocate of abortion rights for women. And then the USMT wore something that took a very strong pro-life stance

These same “get off my lawn guys” would be PRAISING the national team.

It’s only a problem if it interferes with their personal views
 

stormtrooper8

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in this instance qatar more tolerant that many American Jesus loving liberty patriots on twitter
The truth is a lot of the people of Qatar do support the LGBTQ community. It’s pretty comical to think that by having rainbow flags on a emblem would somehow be classless and disrespectful….it’s actually the exact opposite . A lot of innocent people there want the freedoms we have.

Their leadership is just corrupt as f*** and a little ass backwards, though they of course will tolerate it in this case for the $.
 

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Who cares what their GDP per capita is? When I called it a shitty country I obviously wasn’t talking about wealth.

Has nothing to do with their willingness to get into a conflict with the US

I give you props though. Convoluting an argument is a skill and you’re quite good at it :)
Is China shitty?
Saudi Arabia?
Brazil?

You're a simpleton who lacks perspective and respect for the international cultures and values you don't subscribe to.
 

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No country should exist; no government shall govern; no ruler shall rule and no law shall pass unless its in line w the current beliefs of Stormy or Archie types lol

Countries shall be disrespected or spoken down to unless they get in line w Stormy POV

No other culture or vision or belief system shall be tolerated peacefully or respected internationally unless they see the world as you do....

Honestly, this is what you believe per your writings. You're not capable of live and let live politics or religious tolerance.

You liberals are absolutely fukking dillusional.

The modern liberalism world view in the USA has changed DRAMATICALLY in the past 20 years, and you literally are willing to dress down, protest and disrespect religious cultures that have existed for MILLENIA prior to the USA

Unfukking believe the bubble of ignorance
 

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What do you do when you drop your key’s on Polk street!
(You might have to be from the Bay Area to get this one)









Kick them to Van Ness.
 

stormtrooper8

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Is China shitty?
Saudi Arabia?
Brazil?

You're a simpleton who lacks perspective and respect for the international cultures and values you don't subscribe to.
No country should exist; no government shall govern; no ruler shall rule and no law shall pass unless its in line w the current beliefs of Stormy or Archie types lol

Countries shall be disrespected or spoken down to unless they get in line w Stormy POV

No other culture or vision or belief system shall be tolerated peacefully or respected internationally unless they see the world as you do....

Honestly, this is what you believe per your writings. You're not capable of live and let live politics or religious tolerance.

You liberals are absolutely fukking dillusional.

The modern liberalism world view in the USA has changed DRAMATICALLY in the past 20 years, and you literally are willing to dress down, protest and disrespect religious cultures that have existed for MILLENIA prior to the USA

Unfukking believe the bubble of ignorance

You need a to chill out a bit, bud. I think calling people like Archie and myself idiots/simpletons/lacking perspective is pretty pathetic, and frankly very ironic given the dumb statements you've made in this thread .

Condemning people who are against basic human rights is not lacking perspective in the slightest. It's the opposite.
 

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I don't know why the 30 minutes or so a day I've spent here recently is opening this thread, but here I am.

At least I'm getting some Archie zingers and Biggins jokes out of it.
I don’t read half the stuff Minny post I get the gist without even reading. He is consumed he is a nice guy for the most part though. He is like minded like the rest of us when it comes to sports betting.
 

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I don’t read half the stuff Minny post I get the gist without even reading. He is consumed he is a nice guy for the most part though. He is like minded like the rest of us when it comes to sports betting.
Yeah I honestly don't have anything personal against him and don't hate him or anything like that.

He is a unique character, and essentially harmless just typing his odd views/jibberish on a betting forum. A lot of times he's entertaining.

I just don't like the promotion of objectively bad views (hating black people, justifying intolerance of others, denying legitimacy of covid, etc) .
 

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It's just interesting that you define human rights purely thru your perspective and believe that the world should instantly change to conform.

Gay marriage was made legan via SCOTUS only 7 years ago in the US.

So the USMNT is now going to show up in Qatar, a Muslim Country under Monarchy rule & religious legal code since gaining independence from COLONIAL (Western slavery lol) rule in the 1870s, a civilization that predates the discover of the America's by 2000 years, and claim moral superiority whist wagging a finger in their face in an attempt to condemn their lack of progress on gay rights.

Come on man, it's absolutely classless and ridiculous to take a position of change that only occurred socially in America since Stonewell in the 60s and legally in 2015 and ask a region of the world that's been self governing in this way for 6000 years to conform.

Different cultures, values, beliefs and laws exist within America and throughout the world, we should learn from them, study them and appreciate them and most of all, respect them...not try to intimidate or shun them.
 

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The truth is a lot of the people of Qatar do support the LGBTQ community. It’s pretty comical to think that by having rainbow flags on a emblem would somehow be classless and disrespectful….it’s actually the exact opposite . A lot of innocent people there want the freedoms we have.

Their leadership is just corrupt as f*** and a little ass backwards, though they of course will tolerate it in this case for the $.
No. The truth is that not "a lot" of people support LGBTQ right in Qatar. It's an Islamic country run partly by Islamic law.

I personally have several good friends from the LGBTQ community and feel they should not be discriminated against. But that's not the case in Qatar.
 

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It's just interesting that you define human rights purely thru your perspective and believe that the world should instantly change to conform.

Gay marriage was made legan via SCOTUS only 7 years ago in the US.

So the USMNT is now going to show up in Qatar, a Muslim Country under Monarchy rule & religious legal code since gaining independence from COLONIAL (Western slavery lol) rule in the 1870s, a civilization that predates the discover of the America's by 2000 years, and claim moral superiority whist wagging a finger in their face in an attempt to condemn their lack of progress on gay rights.

Come on man, it's absolutely classless and ridiculous to take a position of change that only occurred socially in America since Stonewell in the 60s and legally in 2015 and ask a region of the world that's been self governing in this way for 6000 years to conform.

Different cultures, values, beliefs and laws exist within America and throughout the world, we should learn from them, study them and appreciate them and most of all, respect them...not try to intimidate or shun them.
I believe there is a God, or maker

But I'll admit that most of my life I've been back & forth on what I do believe

Sometimes I have my doubts

But I can say this ...

The way liberals think, act, and the things they believe and things they think are ok, they better hope the bible isn't accurate, because if it is they're all going to burn

They will take this as sounding harsh, but it's just fact

If you are supporting twisted things, that the bible and God is clearly against, and if God and the bible are real, then they are in big-big trouble
 

stormtrooper8

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It's just interesting that you define human rights purely thru your perspective and believe that the world should instantly change to conform.

Gay marriage was made legan via SCOTUS only 7 years ago in the US.

So the USMNT is now going to show up in Qatar, a Muslim Country under Monarchy rule & religious legal code since gaining independence from COLONIAL (Western slavery lol) rule in the 1870s, a civilization that predates the discover of the America's by 2000 years, and claim moral superiority whist wagging a finger in their face in an attempt to condemn their lack of progress on gay rights.

Come on man, it's absolutely classless and ridiculous to take a position of change that only occurred socially in America since Stonewell in the 60s and legally in 2015 and ask a region of the world that's been self governing in this way for 6000 years to conform.

Different cultures, values, beliefs and laws exist within America and throughout the world, we should learn from them, study them and appreciate them and most of all, respect them...not try to intimidate or shun them.
I don't define human rights through "my perspective" though lol talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Societal norms have been changing for literally thousands of years. They change for a reason. And they will keep changing. It's an inevitable part of humanity, proven to be true throughout its entire existence.

Yes Qatar is a much more conservative country, but even they are making progress on LGBTQ rights. Major cultures evolve at different rates, but they all inevitably evolve. LGBTQ rights isn't some sacred Western value lol get outta here with that

As Archie mentioned, Qatar already signed off on not throwing a fit over what the US is doing. They're just happy to have the bid, given how they got it. So I don't really understand what you're even arguing at this point.

Qatar is about to take a fat bath on this event though, so I'm sure they are willing to take any $ they can get
 

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No. The truth is that not "a lot" of people support LGBTQ right in Qatar. It's an Islamic country run partly by Islamic law.

I personally have several good friends from the LGBTQ community and feel they should not be discriminated against. But that's not the case in Qatar.
I guess "a lot" is subjective to some degree. There is a substantial part of the population that does support/want those freedoms beyond just their own LGBTQ population, and tangible progress has been made there.
 

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The way liberals think, act, and the things they believe and things they think are ok, they better hope the bible isn't accurate, because if it is they're all going to burn

They will take this as sounding harsh, but it's just fact

If you are supporting twisted things, that the bible and God is clearly against, and if God and the bible are real, then they are in big-big trouble
If all that shit is real and is meant to be interpreted literally

Then we are ALL fucked
 

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If all that shit is real and is meant to be interpreted literally

Then we are ALL fucked
You know how there's those tough guys who would want to kick the gay guy's ass if they hit on them or something like that?

Well when I was younger I had several gay guy's hit on me

One was a big burly guy who was married you would have never thought he was gay, or bi

But guess what, it never bothered me I didn't have a problem with it wasn't a big deal

Most gay guys are actually pretty cool they're a lot nicer than lesbians who are total bitches

I dated a bisexual girl for a while but realized it wasn't for me because my theory is why do you want to be with someone who's never going to be able to give you 100% of themselves

Some mornings they wake up they're not even attracted to males at all.

So I've always been back and forth on it, no problem with gay people, but religiously it's not supposed to be right

But then again I think people were born that way and it's not even their fault, so it gets really confusing

So once again gay people I have no problem with, but this transgender stuff, is a whole different story they're just complete sickos

And here's the biggest problem going right now...

The problem is such as the existence of this thread for example

Why are we talking about it?

Why is the world talking about it?

Why are we putting certain groups of ppl in the limelight as if they are special?

You wanna be gay, be gay

You wanna cut your privates off because something is wrong with the DNA in your brain, then do it

Nobody gives a fu€k about it and ppl don't want to hear it

The world does not care that you are different

All of the normal ppl aren't trying to push straight down gay ppls' throats

They don't wanna hear it and they need to wake up and understand we don't wanna hear it from them either
 

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You know how there's those tough guys who would want to kick the gay guy's ass if they hit on them or something like that?

Well when I was younger I had several gay guy's hit on me

One was a big burly guy who was married you would have never thought he was gay, or bi

But guess what, it never bothered me I didn't have a problem with it wasn't a big deal

Most gay guys are actually pretty cool they're a lot nicer than lesbians who are total bitches

I dated a bisexual girl for a while but realized it wasn't for me because my theory is why do you want to be with someone who's never going to be able to give you 100% of themselves

Some mornings they wake up they're not even attracted to males at all.

So I've always been back and forth on it, no problem with gay people, but religiously it's not supposed to be right

But then again I think people were born that way and it's not even their fault, so it gets really confusing

So once again gay people I have no problem with, but this transgender stuff, is a whole different story they're just complete sickos

And here's the biggest problem going right now...

The problem is such as the existence of this thread for example

Why are we talking about it?

Why is the world talking about it?

Why are we putting certain groups of ppl in the limelight as if they are special?

You wanna be gay, be gay

You wanna cut your privates off because something is wrong with the DNA in your brain, then do it

Nobody gives a fu€k about it and ppl don't want to hear it

The world does not care that you are different

All of the normal ppl aren't trying to push straight down gay ppls' throats

They don't wanna hear it and they need to wake up and understand we don't wanna hear it from them either
obviously a lot here

But I guess I don't understand why you think homosexuality is shoved down your throat.

Obviously you are going to see movements centered towards LGBTQ rights and not heterosexual peoples' rights, given the former is the group that has historically had to fight against oppression

It's the same reason you see minority race rights, womens' rights movements and not white and men's rights movements here.....because minorities and women have actually had to fight oppression in our country's history (and obviously in many other countries).

So I think you're confusing something being forced on you with an oppressed group simply doing what it should, quite frankly

I guess people can play the religion card, but again if we are following the Bible strictly then we are literally all going to Hell haha
 
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No if your good you live forever and if you bad you die when you die.

You guys are getting to deep imo

Don’t worry be happy in your own skin go out there and take one for the Gipper.
 
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