Sammy who is the Tennis GOAT in the Men's Game ??

[homie1975]

Federer most aesthetically beautiful game to watch.

Rafa the most fierce, incredible return of serve, first Spaniard to win at every Slam Venue

Joker, probably the greatest overall talent top to bottom.

My opinion: obviously RAFA on clay anywhere in the Universe.

however, IMO: the 2008 wimbledon Rafa and the 2009 aussie Rafa beat JOKER in his prime at those two venues just like Rafa beat Fed.

VAMOS RAFA !!!

 

[samsncharge99]

Djokovic is the GOAT and its not really a tough arguement

federer will always be the peoples GOAT. Federer did the most for tennis but stats and ability djokovic is the best

 

[samsncharge99]

Year end titles. Djokovic 6. Federer 6. Nadal 0

grand slams. 22 22 and federer 20

nadal 13 titles on clay and 2 grass. 7 hard

jokovic 2 on clay. 7 grass. 13 hard court

 

[samsncharge99]

Head to head i think djokovic is up 1 match on nadal. Not really breaking down every stat

but in my mind its joker easy as goat. Love nadal

 

[jjgold]

Sammys correct there is no goat but joker

Federer is not even in the same category

 

[homie1975]

FED and RAFA will always be more beloved than JOKER for the people.

 

[Archie]

john mcEnroe

 

[samsncharge99]

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FED and RAFA will always be more beloved than JOKER for the people.

correct

 

[homie1975]

let's consider this.

FED was born in Aug '81
RAFA was born in June '86 about 5 years later.
JOKER was born in May '87 about 6 years after Fed and 11 mos after Rafa.

however, if you really look at their careers, FED had multiple years (at least 3 good ones) on his own beating the significantly lesser competition (safin, hewitt, roddick) left and right before RAFA really came on the scene in mid 2005. Rafa then hit his stride on all surfaces in 08/09.

Joker, though only 11 mos younger than Rafa, did not hit his stride until 2011 or so.

Fed had years before Rafa and Joker has had years with Rafa on the decline.

The one guy who has had significant overlap over the other two guys' peaks, has been RAFA.

IMO he has had the toughest road having to play Both of the other Mount Rushmore guys, during *most* of their primes.

Sammy talk to me, how do you like my analysis ?

 

[jjgold]

Fed just didn’t beat enough good players like joker in big moments

 

[Wagerallsports]

One thing I've learned as the years go by, is that get caught up in the now/moment, and so quickly forget the others who were once proclaimed the greatest

 

[biggie12]

Homie loves his fed! 4 more years there wont even be a conversation anymore joker hands down

 

[keithrichard]

I used to watch tennis when Bjorn Borg was around. How good was he in comparison?

 

[teacher10]

Michael Chang GOAT!

 

[samsncharge99]

 

[samsncharge99]

let's consider this.

FED was born in Aug '81
RAFA was born in June '86 about 5 years later.
JOKER was born in May '87 about 6 years after Fed and 11 mos after Rafa.

however, if you really look at their careers, FED had multiple years (at least 3 good ones) on his own beating the significantly lesser competition (safin, hewitt, roddick) left and right before RAFA really came on the scene in mid 2005. Rafa then hit his stride on all surfaces in 08/09.

Joker, though only 11 mos younger than Rafa, did not hit his stride until 2011 or so.

Fed had years before Rafa and Joker has had years with Rafa on the decline.

The one guy who has had significant overlap over the other two guys' peaks, has been RAFA.

IMO he has had the toughest road having to play Both of the other Mount Rushmore guys, during *most* of their primes.

Sammy talk to me, how do you like my analysis ?

Thats the best part of this conversation just like lebron vs MJ. Theres valid points and logic reasoning for both sides

 

[keithrichard]

I used to watch tennis when Bjorn Borg was around. How good was he in comparison?

Does anyone here know who Bjorn Borg is lol? In case you're wondering he was the not part of that group from Star Trek.

 

[quantumleap]

Michael Chang GOAT!

I always liked Michael Chang. Probably because I worked a couple miles south of where he used to practice when he was in his prime.

 

[homie1975]

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Sammy those stats are kind of cherrypicked outside of the SLAMS.

there is one stat i cannot recall where it is like 92 or 94 for Rafa and about the same for Joker.

it's something big that patrick mcenroe put up on screen during the aussie final the other day.

 

[samsncharge99]

Sammy those stats are kind of cherrypicked outside of the SLAMS.

there is one stat i cannot recall where it is like 92 or 94 for Rafa and about the same for Joker.

it's something big that patrick mcenroe put up on screen during the aussie final the other day.

But grand slam, masters 1000s, and year end finals are the biggest events of the year

Mlb/nhl/nfl/nba gives teams credit for championship game appearances and playoff appearances. Congrats on getting there. Participation stats

those tennis stats are tournament wins. Thise are matches won T those levels. Those are winning tournament stats

not 250 not 500 level.
Year end finals is only 8 best players each year. Nadal has 0 titles at end of year. Thats a huge flag for the goat title